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Malazan Book of the Fallen

Steven Erikson

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NoNotTheDuo
Gardens of the Moon, Deadhouse Gates, Memories of Ice, House of Chains, Midnight Tides, The Bonehunters, Reaper's Gale, Toll the Hounds, Dust of Dreams, and The Crippled God - aka Malazan Book of the Fallen - all by Steven Erikson. Talk about a renewed interest in reading. After getting through Gardens of the Moon, I realized that I didn't really know what was going on or why these characters were doing what they were doing. I found a readalong podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ten-very-big-books-a-m... (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ten-very-big-books-a-malazan-readthrough-podcast/id1461716128)), which really helped me put into context the storylines throughout the series. It's the most epic fantasy series out there. The stories are based on GURPS games that Erikson and his gaming partner Ian Cameron Esslemont ran in the 1980s on archeological digs. And there are an additional 16 novels, written both by Erikson and Esslemont, which continue to flesh out the universe.…

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Semaphor
I re-read the 10 doorstopper long "Malazan Book of the Fallen" high fantasy series by Steven Erikson and enjoyed it just as much as I did originally, slightly over a decade ago. Still my favorite series of all time. This took up a pretty big chunk of the year, so most other books were rather light urban fantasy novels. But one other mini-series stood out (potentially going to be a trilogy, but both #1 & #2 can stand alone). Teixcalaan #1 & #2, "A Memory Called Empire" and "A Desolation Called Peace" by Arkady Martine for being very different feeling sci-fi books that are not your typical western-centric fare. Highlights are the language, and that the story feels both very small and contained, and also all-encompassing, at the same time.

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beezlebroxxxxxx
> Would I be at a disadvantage of not knowing anything about Malazan world or its tabletop RPG? No. My understanding is the RPG world was entirely private and there is no published campaign or book about the specific RPG world at all. It was just what Erikson made before he started the Malazan series. It's not required at all. Malazan is decidedly more demanding as a reader though than Stormlight. I would say if you find Stormlight complicated or demanding then you might not enjoy Malazan, which is operating on a fundamentally more complex (on sheer number of characters, for an example) and mature level than Stormlight on almost every level. There is a reason Malazan is often brought up when discussing the greatest fantasy series of all time. (I still would put neither Malazan or Stormlight as really complex books though. They're fairly straightforward compared to more creative and formally interesting books like Ulysses or Finnegan's Wake, for instance. In general people who read fantasy tend to be rather hyperbolic when it comes to how complex the books are.)
beezlebroxxxxxx
Stormlight is significantly easier to read than Malazan and, at least in my opinion, significantly simpler in almost every way. Malazan is really a narrative tour-de-force with an extremely satisfying way of bringing a number of storylines together and to conclusion in each book. It's also an interesting meditation on history, regret, and the arc of empires over time. The complexity and in media res nature of the beginning throws a lot of people off but you just have to keep reading. It's written in a way that has no handholding; the world is already built and ancient and you're dropped into it, while Sanderson, honestly, seems to be kind of making it up as you go along. (This is, in part, because Erikson had the entire Malazan world as a tabletop RPG before writing the books.) Sanderson's books, in comparison, are more like Marvel movies. They're entertaining, but I don't find that they reinvent the wheel or do anything too interesting. Stormlight is also much less grim and mature in many ways than Malazan, which is either a pro or a con for some people.

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subtra3t
Malazan is amazing, possibly the best fantasy series I've ever read after Stormlight Archives (KKC would be on the list if not for the author's attitude towards the 3rd book). That said, it's really common for newcomers to the series to abandon the book even after a couple hundred pages. Think of it as being akin to being dropped in a completely foreign country, with no kind of guidance or language experience. The 1st book is the hardest to really "get" but if you do manage to get into it you'll have a really great time.

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dilippkumar
Just finished the second book of this series. I agree with the parent comment - strongly recommend. I also finished book 10 of the Malazan series. Imagine Dan Carlin (Hardcore History podcast) and Quentin Tarantino took both the red pill and the blue pill that Morpheus offered Neo and ground both the pills together, snorted it, shook hands and agreed to create something better than Game of Thrones. I imagine they would have come up with something almost as good as the Malazan series. You’ll have to power through the first book (Gardens of the Moon). It is notoriously difficult - I recommend following up each chapter with commentary on Tor’s Gardens of the Moon reread. I will also guarantee that the way book 1 ends will not make sense. But keep reading - the payoff is waiting as early as the end of book 2. And again at the end of book 3. And again all through books 4 and 5. And it’ll stay that good till the end.

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